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In response to Ran's July 31 post on technology: I intend to talk about this in more depth later, if I get motivated enough to do it, but I'll say a little now. Many of us have struggled with this...

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Wolfbird, I think you may have missed my point about the madman. It will be easier if you explain what you meant by a "common, shared" reality and how these terms do not indicate that said reality is...

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moth, I also used the words empirical, and objective, along with common and shared. I used those four words because none of them seemed to quite fit what I intended to convey, but somewhere in that...

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moth, I also used the words empirical, and objective, along with common and shared. I used those four words because none of them seemed to quite fit what I intended to convey, but somewhere in that...

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okay, moth, empirical : as in testable. That is, in a practical sense, i can do things in this reality, e.g. open the door, and the cold air comes in. objective : not purely subjective. That is, the...

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how extraordinarily foolish you are, it doesn't much matter what lie you believe in so long as you get what you want Serracruz, this type of stuff is entirely unhelpful. Popping in with a meaningless...

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moth, you write : "Wolfbird, of course all of our words refer to some aspect of our reality, but this notion isn't helpful to us." I disagree. Words are crucial. They are bricks we use to build up the...

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Unfortunately wolfbird I think you are beginning to dodge my questions/refute statements I haven't made. In your case this usually takes the form of picking apart language which isn't central to my...

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moth wrote (italics): "Unfortunately wolfbird I think you are beginning to dodge my questions/refute statements I haven't made. In your case this usually takes the form of picking apart language which...

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Sorry wolfbird, no more word games for me! Hopefully a third party (more constructive than serracruz) will pipe in and address my points in good faith.

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Thanks for your efforts, moth, even if they didn't arrive at any satisfactory conclusion. I think serracruz has a point "...honestly express your presuppositions such that you both agree that you both...

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peace

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I thought I had laid out my presuppositions in good faith: 1) There is no way to tell whether our reality is a simulation or a quantum fluctuation with no history (there's no experience we could have...

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"1) There is no way to tell whether our reality is a simulation or a quantum fluctuation with no history (there's no experience we could have to refute this), so therefore, to avoid insanity-" Don't...

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Nice post, doc. Slightly biased towards the masculine ? :-) An interesting mix of Buddhism and Christianity, seems to me. What you describe is, for the Buddhists, samsara, the wheel of birth and...

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Right, Wolfbird, there's no way to tell if our reality is really x. The dream of a butterfly, a ride on the back of a tortoise. We couldn't know. In this case there's also no way to prove your...

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(apologies, the fonts size has gone weird, don't know why) Hang on, moth, you're making some assumptions I cannot accept, Right, Wolfbird, there's no way to tell if our reality is really x. I was...

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Wolfbird, I don't think it makes sense to speak of subdivisions of reality. The reality we experience every day is the same as the ultimate reality of which you agree we can know nothing. Well, if I...

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"Wolfbird, I don't think it makes sense to speak of subdivisions of reality. The reality we experience every day is the same as the ultimate reality of which you agree we can know nothing." In one...

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